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Re: Tragedies

Post by Entity » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:04 am

Is there an accented é in Mexíco? Because allflags wrote it like that. Edit: It does, and I have been wrong my entire life.
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Re: Tragedies

Post by crow » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:23 am

Entity wrote:I have been wrong my entire life.
Dat's good. It won't come as such a shock when you start being right.

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Re: Tragedies

Post by BabyDragon » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:30 am

And if you're not familiar, I was talking about this event: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... /75960116/

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Re: Tragedies

Post by crow » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:32 am

Well, let them get on with it. It's their business and that's what they do.
The West's concern must lie with its own people, and their government's one actual job: protecting its own people.

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Re: Tragedies

Post by potatotoro » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:04 pm

crow wrote:I don't think it's anything. It's as fake and contrived and selfish and shortsighted as just about everything else that people do.
Charity isn't the problem. People are the problem. They'd do a lot better being charitable towards the natural environment, and making do with far, far less.
but you're a person too.You can be selfish, shortsighted and even fake sometimes.
You can also genuinely care about something.How can you say these people don't really care?You can't know the depths of their soul or the complexity of their mind.So why don't you just take their word for it instead of looking for/assuming the worst in people.

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Re: Tragedies

Post by crow » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:53 pm

No. I can not be selfish, shortsighted, or fake. Ever. Which is why I can say the things I say.
I know myself completely, which also enables me to know others.
I know what people are like, what they do, and why they do what they do.
These things don't happen to agree with your own fantasies, for the simple reason you don't know what I know.
But I would bet that you know I'm right, deep down. It has that ring of truth to it.
It's just not the sort of thing you want to be true.

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Re: Tragedies

Post by potatotoro » Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:43 am

Perhaps what you say does ring true for a few people, but not all, and I don't think I'm being overly optimistic in this instance.
You don't and can't know why everyone does what they do.You're just being illogical now.
and honestly if you're gonna keep up this whole "all knowing" and "holier then thou" act, I don't see a point in continuing this discussion/debate (whatever you wanna call it).

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Re: Tragedies

Post by crow » Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:58 am

Fine with me. I am what I am. If it makes you uncomfortable, then by all means, don't pursue it further.

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Post by potatotoro » Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:05 pm

oh, not so much uncomfortable as disappointed.
but you're right all the same, I won't peruse it further!

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Re: Tragedies

Post by BabyDragon » Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:18 pm

Ironically an attack has happened right here in Bosnia yesterday, some guy connected to the Wahabi Islam movement killed two army officers.

And now they can't make a conspiracy to blame the West.

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Re: Tragedies

Post by crow » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:16 pm

People spend a great deal of their time assigning blame to each other. It's almost their defining trait.
I had two cats, once, who seemed to blame each other, in turns. It was very amusing to see, in cats.
It's not remotely amusing though, to see people doing it.

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Re: Tragedies

Post by BabyDragon » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:57 am

Blaming is totally ok if you're blaming the right person, but if you're just inventing lies and blaming people based on that, that is just horrible.

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Re: Tragedies

Post by crow » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:02 am

Well, like so many other things that people do, blaming is a display where none is needed.
It's one thing to know who is at fault, and why, but another thing entirely, to make a big show of it.
It's the justice and compensation culture I guess. "I was wronged, and so now I want big bucks from the guy that did it" :)

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