Reality vs. reality.

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Reality vs. reality.

Post by crow » Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:46 pm

Who knows WTF anything is, any more? It's getting harder and harder to tell what-is from what-isn't-but-only-looks-like-it-is.
If you ever wondered why so many lunatics seem to be loose on the streets, this is one of the reasons why:

There is an electronic kit you can buy to transform the sound of your little burping Ford Fiesta into a growling, threatening V-8.
Software you can buy to put back the scratches and distortions from vinyl records onto your crystal-clear MP3s.
Women lumbering around that aren't women at all, but unusual men surgically transformed into a sort-of facsimile of one.
And vice-versa.
Conservatives who are not conservative. 'Green' lightbulbs that poison the environment. Democracy that isn't. Free countries that aren't. Sales that aren't. Birth control hormones that find their way into your water. Reality-T.V. that isn't. Smiles that aren't. Truth that isn't. It goes on and on.

I am speaking, here, of the world of humans, as opposed to The World. The first is patently insane. The latter is, was, and will always be, perfect.
It is important to be able to make the distinction.

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Re: Reality vs. reality.

Post by Entejay » Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:30 pm

And your point is that humans can't rule themselves, therefore some supernatural doctrine (religion) should be turned at for source of information....right?

You are quite transparent.

Human hating too much, don't you? It must suck to be one for you?

Well, this is what happens when you take away the power of the masses to make decisions. Humans aren't bad people. What bad is our system that allows small number of people to gain so much power, that it ends up controlling everybody. That is what kings did in their time. That is what feodals did in their time. And that is what financial capitalist elite do in our time.

We simply cannot function outside of democracy.

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Re: Reality vs. reality.

Post by crow » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:38 pm

You feel you are functioning?

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Post by Entejay » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:42 pm

crow wrote:You feel you are functioning?
What religion offers to us, is far worse than what we already have.

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Re: Reality vs. reality.

Post by crow » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:24 pm

Clearly you have never found one that is genuine.

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Post by Entejay » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:43 pm

crow wrote:Clearly you have never found one that is genuine.
Hahaha! So I am spot on! I was spot on all along.

Look it's okay. I don't hate you for that.

I just want to say you this that I am an anti-theist. And it is very important for me.

In case you wonder who an anti-theist is....it is someone who actively opposes to the idea in a belief of any deity.

I'm glad to meet you Mr. Theist. I hope to rob you of your beliefs as soon as possible.

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Re: Reality vs. reality.

Post by crow » Sun Oct 25, 2015 7:59 pm

Good luck with that: I don't hold any beliefs.
Unlike you, I don't jam people into little prepared boxes and then consider them known quantities.

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Post by Entejay » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:03 pm

crow wrote:Good luck with that: I don't hold any beliefs.
Doesn't seem likely. You wouldn't talk about "genuine" religion if you weren't one of them. You had a defensive stance.
Unlike you, I don't jam people into little prepared boxes and then consider them known quantities.
Fine. I will give you the benefit of the doubt. What is your story? I have a suspicion that you are a muslim.

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Post by crow » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:12 pm

Consistently wrong. Better to assemble the scraps of information first, before making erroneous judgements.
I am never defensive, under any circumstances. Because I am nominally a taoist. Taoism is not a religion, and has no deity.
I revere Reality, itself, which humans continually confuse with something they refer to as God.
In the same way they confuse The World with the world of people.

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Post by Entejay » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:36 pm

crow wrote:Consistently wrong. Better to assemble the scraps of information first, before making erroneous judgements.
I agree with that approach. But assembling the scraps of information doesn't have to be done in a passive way. I can ask questions too don't I?
I am never defensive, under any circumstances. Because I am nominally a taoist. Taoism is not a religion, and has no deity.
Ah I see. Yes Taoism is not a religion. It is more like a philosophy.
I revere Reality, itself, which humans continually confuse with something they refer to as God.
Uh..no. God is not something that is part of the reality.
In the same way they confuse The World with the world of people.
And what is the difference between those two?

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Post by crow » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:44 pm

You are right. God is not part of Reality. God is Reality.
The World is what preceded people, and will outlast them. The world of humans is a delusional state where The World disappears and people are all people can see.

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Re: Reality vs. reality.

Post by Entejay » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:53 pm

crow wrote:You are right. God is not part of Reality. God is Reality.
No, it isn't. God is the creator of the reality. God cannot both create the reality and be part of it.
The World is what preceded people, and will outlast them. The world of humans is a delusional state where The World disappears and people are all people can see.
Lost...again.

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Re: Reality vs. reality.

Post by crow » Sun Oct 25, 2015 8:56 pm

How would you know? You don't believe in God.
I don't either, because what I know renders obsolete any need to believe.
If you get nothing else from this rambling exchange, remember this: God is Reality.
You do believe in Reality, don't you?

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Re: Reality vs. reality.

Post by Entejay » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:08 pm

crow wrote:How would you know? You don't believe in God.
The term "God" is referred in Judeo-Christian-Islamic (Abrahamic religion) as the creative force of all that we know. And the definition for God is in their books too. Therefore, no, God is not the reality. God is above the reality.
I don't either, because what I know renders obsolete any need to believe.
So is mine.
If you get nothing else from this rambling exchange, remember this: God is Reality.
No, God is not reality.
You do believe in Reality, don't you?
I do not need a belief to know that reality exist. I "know" that reality exists. I just don't think that it is God.

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Re: Reality vs. reality.

Post by crow » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:16 pm

Fine. Reject what you don't understand. That is your choice.

Why do you multi-quote, the way you do? Do you do that face-to-face, too?
In leftist circles, this is known as deconstruction. It renders everything meaningless. Are you a nihilist?

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