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 Post subject: Re: What are your goals in life?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:14 am 
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Noriko wrote:
-I didn't mean that to be "admirable"... the sentiment just makes sense to me. Of course we die alone. Being surrounded by people on your death bed doesn't change the fact that YOU'RE the one dying. Until there's a weird form of telepathy... you are simply alone in your head, in your body.
Otherwise, yes, unwarranted hermit behaviour is stupid. But since unwarranted exploration appears more taxing in hindsight, I take my chances with isolation for sections of my time.


If a person goes to lone-wolf mode it translates to me like this. The person has defeated all the arguments of the people around them and go with their own flow rather than what people are. It's sentimentally admirable, because it is a proof of monumental achievement. After all, dealing with all arguments is not an easy thing...not easy at all. If a person reached that point, then it is acceptable. That is what I mean by going prepared. You are "prepared" against all arguments and just want to put something new on the table. Or the table you think should be there.

And there is no way to avoid the unwarranted behavior. After all, once you are prepared, you will appear unwarranted by people around you. It would be stupid if it were baseless. But what if it has a base? Then it wouldn't be stupid. And most probably, it is actually people who think it is unwarranted are stupid themselves in the first place.


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 Post subject: Re: What are your goals in life?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:15 am 
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Noriko wrote:
-You don't have to be sorry. But I don't know why INFP's would then be a type to deal with. ...INFP's aren't that grown-up either. Apparently.


We shall see.


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 Post subject: Re: What are your goals in life?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:45 pm 
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I believe I understand your position more.

I concur; though I do not entirely ignore people, even at this point. It's later when I use people; that's part of the goal. Remove my self/the unnecessary, and be free to learn thereafter.
I attempt to not miss anything, but the point is taken. What's difficult is pin-pointing the very specific gaps in knowledge. But I shall review more carefully; filling them in relatively easy, at least. (And of course, people can point out even more...) The general gaps can be overlooked, but since they sit in front of your face, they can be slapped down & filled quicker.
Now I see the "lone-wolf;" thank you for that clarification.

I now see certain fault in the plan, I will need to create another loop(s)/path(s). I am not so great with continuity anyways... Thank you.


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 Post subject: Re: What are your goals in life?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:26 pm 
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Hmm...you are more bold than you appear to be :D

Tell me please; Do you feel the need to verify every bit of theoretically learned knowledge? The answer to this question may reveal the answer to your another question.


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 Post subject: Re: What are your goals in life?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:01 am 
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Once again, I am sorry I am late....

I generally feel the need to verify most (if not all possible) data, for most theories. (I did not go into string theory very much). I can't personally verify all the mathematics, for example, but I like delving where I can. There's a reason I have some thought/planning holes.


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 Post subject: Re: What are your goals in life?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:17 am 
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Is your every goal so .... grand?


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 Post subject: Re: What are your goals in life?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:42 am 
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I do have some grandiose vision. It won't look grandiose to others, more, it will look a mesh of goals, probably a little far-fetched. I suppose the tinge of internal grandiosity/"fire" keeps me going... but no, realistically, every goal is not grand. Maybe not even one is grand, maybe the entire enterprise is not "grand."
To myself, it is the entirety that feels grand.


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 Post subject: Re: What are your goals in life?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:52 pm 
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Noriko wrote:
I do have some grandiose vision. It won't look grandiose to others, more, it will look a mesh of goals, probably a little far-fetched. I suppose the tinge of internal grandiosity/"fire" keeps me going... but no, realistically, every goal is not grand. Maybe not even one is grand, maybe the entire enterprise is not "grand."
To myself, it is the entirety that feels grand.


I suppose you aren't result oriented. More like possibilities and ideas oriented.

Which is completely fine if it's true.

After all, the purpose of conversation is to understand where one ends and other begins.


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 Post subject: Re: What are your goals in life?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:45 am 
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I'm not particularly result oriented. I have small goals that are worth pursuing; but they do not follow me. They're just plain checkpoints to work with as I work with something more colourful.
Results are great, but they just seem to have another process to contend with afterwards. Somehow.

"After all, the purpose of conversation is to understand where one ends and other begins."
This is a delightfully refined statement. (It just struck me as such)


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 Post subject: Re: What are your goals in life?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:32 pm 
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Now I do better understand an INFP.

On the outer we may look similar. Actually very similar. But when you go onto more deeper level...there are huge differences.

For example, I am result oriented. I finish what I start. And I start alot of things. Whereas you are plans and ideas oriented...I plan and orient based on the results I'm receiving from the world I'm interacting with. I have no internal ideas or plans ... other than exploring the outer at all costs. Which is basically the point of my life. To experience as much as I can and learn as much as I can.

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"After all, the purpose of conversation is to understand where one ends and other begins."
This is a delightfully refined statement. (It just struck me as such)


I meant "to understand ones limitation". No pun intended. (dont care about pun...have better things to do)


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 Post subject: Re: What are your goals in life?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:29 pm 
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Yes. That's what you get when you flip the judging functions, I suppose...

Regardless of what you meant (or what pun appeared), I liked the sentence. I'll take the meaning into account as well of course.

Perhaps I'll write out a full repsonse later; but thank you for this discussion (so far, anyways).


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 Post subject: Re: What are your goals in life?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:31 pm 
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Perhaps I'll write out a full repsonse later; but thank you for this discussion (so far, anyways).


You are welcome.

To be honest I'm a little bit disappointed.

After all, it looked so promising, and yet...not there. So close...


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